
French OG
March 18, 2025
Myron from Fresh and Fit claimed that a guy should look to sleep with 50 girls before thinking of settling down, amongst other metrics.
This post originated from two DMs I received within 24 hours over the weekend. One of them asked me:
"If you could start your life again with all of your knowledge on the dating world, would you wish to settle with a "good girl" (very pretty with good behaviour, never been in a relationship/never been fucked) from your 18th anniversary or would you enjoy your 20s and then settle?"
The other one asked me to develop further on Myron's point.
The idea behind the claim is that it should help you understand female nature and keep you grounded. The numbers will vary from guy to guy; some will be 20 girls, some 50 girls, and some 100+ girls.
Now, the real question is, does the fact of going with many girls will give you the necessary wisdom?
Yes and No.
Yes, in the sense that you will find yourself in so many different set-ups before sex that you will learn what leads girls to give the cookies. Most often, you will realise it is a matter of opportunity, aka right place, right time. Irrespective of the girl in question. "Good Girl" or "Not a good girl". So besides the W that you think it is, you will realise it often takes good logistics to have sex, and the girl has the right mindset. Whether you did much to get her there will depend on you, the situation and your Game level. On the flip side, you will become jaded seeing the Darkside in the front row. The disillusion will eventually become overwhelming until it does not impact you anymore, meaning you won't be able to look back at your Blue Pill days like you did in the past.
Another lesson that will be contrary to popular belief is that you don't need to have as much frame as you think. A lot of times, it will work against you, as women want to have sex with you of their own accord as part of their learned masculine behaviour; what you are doing is just enabling the road for it to happen. Like the good salesman you are, you will make her feel she is in charge while subtly setting up the scene without her realising you are guiding her.
On other occasions, you will have to overpower the girl because she loves being put back in her place, which turns her on. You will understand the variety of girls you will encounter. You are effectively turning yourself into the shapeshifter responding to her needs. The Short-Term Win feels good, but you work against yourself without knowing it.
You will also understand there are many ways to skin a cat. You will also see how predictable women are. They will lose some of their magic, which is what initially drew you to them. This makes you partly immune to their charms until you expose yourself to the ones who will make you look inward.
However, the claim is not entirely correct because the number of bodies will not directly make you make the biggest headways in your personal development. It will be through the very, very few encounters that you make where you find a woman or women that will make you question your ways and start developing your identity, which is not one based on how plastic your personality is to get with as many of them, but how strong is the world you want to curate for yourself.
These women will make you discover some of the suppressed emotions inside you that drove you to fill that sexual cup, and should you not have a core base or a reality that is going to be the way you want to direct your life, you will be a pawn to your desires and the women who will manipulate you to get to their agenda.
It is less about the 50 bodies than the likeliness through the high sample of encounters of meeting one of them. You will understand yourself as a man addressing the undisclosed or unconscious traumas lying inside you. This will guide how you see the frame of future relationships in which you decide to involve yourself.
So, returning to the original question, would I prefer to settle at 18 with all my knowledge or enjoy my 20s before settling?
This is very personal regarding what one would prefer as an individual:
1) No matter how unpalatable the knowledge, the quest for the truth is a reality born from empirical experiences that is worth the cost.
Or
2) Abstaining from living these experiences and relying on shared knowledge without fully understanding the consequences of each choice because of a lack of introspection from lived situations.
I always relied on my morbid curiosity, and mistakes were more sticky than what some third-party person said, so I had to choose 1). So, settling in my 20s through empirical testing was the answer.
However, for the guys who would choose the same path, I have a warning for them:
When you are used to getting a wide variety of experiences, you will be less likely to bond strongly with a woman who has little knowledge or even a virgin because your realities are so far apart. You will also have a more challenging time bonding with someone because you have seen the ins and outs of the attachment process as a receiver or perpetrator. This means you will be less likely to live in that blissful ignorance that characterises the idealisation of your first love.
Counterintuitively enough, that will make you a better partner, as foregoing the idea of unconditional love makes you a better leader and lover (to her). However, that will come at the expense of you being genuinely loved. The reality is you never were; the difference is that now you can't lie to yourself about what it is. This will make you question whether you want a relationship altogether if you are just a utility to a woman whose conditional love only relies on that. This goes beyond just a monetary aspect but as well acts as an emotional dealer to a junkie. If you choose someone level-headed, she will be more overtly transactional and less sentimental about your interactions. The question you will ask yourself:
What value do I get from associating with them? As sex is not something you seek as much, the experience will make you disregard the vast majority of your prospects, as 90% won't qualify. Settling will make less sense because you have become emotionally unavailable. When they do, you will start looking at things from a Cost/Benefit Analysis because you lost your original idealisation. If you want a family, you can work things more clearly...
Nevertheless, you will likely get bored of the "good girl" you decided to settle with because she will be the contrast of what you will later miss. The experience you got from the hoes of the past or highly sexual girls (in the best cases of scenarios who were in 1 or 2 LTRs with low BCs) will contrast with the vanilla girl that is your now wife. Unless you like to train a girl to be your sexual freak, you will eventually want to cheat with the girls who appeal to your shadow side. In the same way women look for their clean-up man before they get bored of him, you will get bored of your "clean-up woman" because, essentially, the reason you were attracted to her is that she filled your Non-Sexual cup. She would be a good mother, but not that lusty throat goat.
Not knowing what you are missing is essentially necessary for a monogamous relationship. Otherwise, the likelihood of it being successful will be reduced thanks to the (un)conscious benchmarks you will operate in your head once you have achieved the purpose of settling with the "clean-up woman" and miss the old thrills.
Eventually, it is through knowledge, no matter how disenchanting, that you come to peace of mind about what you can and cannot achieve. You then make the choice that resonates the most with you, avoid mistakes, and prioritise what you seek, whether it is a family or bachelorhood, if not anything else.
The rule is that front-end payments always dwarf the back-end ones. Like the hoes you can't turn into housewives, ignoring realities always comes back with a vengeance through the interest charges on the debt of ignorance.